Section # 9:
Miscellanous Notes & Comments
Affecting All M20 Model Mooneys
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is section # 9 of our Hangar
Talk Forums and is primarily intended for all Mooney owners
and enthusiasts. It contains items and postings which Hangar Talk members have
contributed indicating that they felt they were applicable to most all Mooney
owners concerning the "care and feeding" of their Mooneys. Therefore,
this section being sort of a "catch all" section, may contain broad based
posting items not concerning any specific model or vintage Mooney, but still interesting
and/or vital. Due to the fact in many ways all Mooneys share copious amounts of common
parts etc., (at the moderators desecration and/or contributors direction), many
contributions have been placed here because of the "general interest value" to
most all owners and/or enthusiast (or Mooniac, as we like to term them).
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Universal M20 Mooney Postings and Comments For All Model Mooney Owners
M20 Msc & To All Mooney Owners In Hanger Talk Forum
9: Name - Bill Barnes, Address -19019 60th Street City, Plattsmouth,
NE. Zip Code -68048, Day Phone - 503-450-5934, Day FAX - = 503-450-5952
Eve Phone - = 360-604-8530 x7633 until 11/98 E-Mail - = barnes.bill@emeryworld.com. N-Number
-N2683W Comments = I have been trying to locate a copy of the Al Mooney Story by Gordon
Baxter. Does anyone have an address where I can order a copy?
Forum Moderators: Bill, to the best of my
knowledge it is out of print. You may check with BAX himself via FLYING
Magazine.
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Hangar Talk Member Notice/Posting:
Subject: Entertaining M20 Rear seaters
From: Scott Logan, tscott@epix.net
In Coy's book, The Backwards Tales, he mentioned of someone who installed a TV and VCR
setup for the kid's. I am having trouble locating the right thing to use as far as space,
mounting, and how to power the thing. If you could give me some idea's I would appreciate
it. Also price is a concern, I do not want to spend thousand's. Thank you.
Scott Logan
237 East Dark Hollow Rd. Pipersville Pa.
18947
Forum Moderators: Scott,
some of the guys mount a super portable (or personal) 4" Sony or Casio type LCD TV on
a (A&P shop made) bracket which was fastened through the overhead Royalite headliner
between and just to the rear of the two front seats facing rearward. This very small
and lightweight 12/24V TV was then velcro'ed or fastened to the light weight aluminum
bracket and external wires run so as the whole setup was "temporary" and not
requiring any formal FAA approval. Most used a 12V 8mm player in the baggage
compartment wired to the TV to view movies.
Others, I know actually had a TV mounted in the instrument panel quasi-legally via velcro
etc. Both video's and broadcast is available as a window or internally hidden
F/Glass belly mounted antennas have been used. There are several ways to entertain rear
seaters including having the rear seaters hold a personal size TV in their laps using a
8mm recorder/player and headphones.
Interested, please call and I will try to get model numbers and/or if there is enough
interest, we can put together a total " entertainment package" set-upfor Mooney
owners. Interested? CAll ME DIRECTLY FOR MORE DETAILS----COY
Hangar Talk Member Notice/Posting:
Subject: Tail hold down (ed: this applies to ALL MOONEYS)
From: arthur m. elliott
To: Coy@mooneymart.com
I would like to know how much weight is necessary to hold the tail down on a M20F with
wing jacks in place to get the nose off the ground for a retract test during an annual. I
am planning on making one out of cement in a tub on casters but don't want to go overboard
with the weight. regards,
Art
Forum Moderators: Art, Mooney
Aircraft Co. doesn't recommend holding down a tail w/weights. I have seen it done, and it
seems that somewhat over 2-300 lbs will do the trick. Usually, about ½ or less of a 55
gal drum filled w/concrete is enough. I have seen some tail weights made of about a third
of a drum on rollers.
We don't use a weight but use prop jacks. My experience is that it takes nearly all of, if
not more than my weight to hold a tail down (200+) as I have tried it myself by throwing
my body weight on a tail when a F is on jacks. Not to be a smarty, but why not jack one up
and then go to the tail fuselage/dorsal fin area and hold one down to see for yourself? My
guess is 350 lbs. My recommendation is a "prop stand" rather than a weight
anyway, like Mooney recommends in their SM. Coy
Tail Hold Down Follow-UP
Subject: Re: tail hold down,
Thanks for your Email reply Coy.
How much are the prop stands and where is the source? do you have to remove the spinner to
use the stand? not able to really get on top of the tail cone as the speed faring is in
the way and i don't have any 350# friends. seems that you still have to get the nose wheel
off the ground before installing the prop stand and then jack up the wings. just trying to
keep it simple and the cost down. regards,
Art
Forum Moderators: Art, check T-A-Plane
for commercial mfg.'d prop jack/stands etc. Or you can make one yourself. Remember, if
your Mooney falls, it will cost far more than the cost of several jacks etc. Be
smart....... Coy
PS: Like our new Web Site Art? http://www.mooneymart.com
Hangar Talk Member
Notice/Posting : Name: Howard A. Richmond II,
Address: 17515 Spyglass Circle, Dallas, Texas, 75287
Day Phone - = 972-248-1599, Day FAX - = 972-248-1503
E-Mail - = hrichmond@compuserve.com
N-Number - = N6330Q, Mooney Model - = M20C
Comments = Is there a way to get a back up electrical source or second alternator to
improve the safety margin in heavy IFR flight?
Forum Moderators: Yes, funny you should ask. Knowing this "single source" electrical power situation is of grave importantce to all IFR (and most VFR) pilots, we are currently STC'ing an amazing compact but reliable light weight RAT (Ram Air Turbine) generator/alternator for ALL MOONEYS as this is being written. Upon the pilot pulling a lever in the cockit, a minature 8" turbine will swing out of the battery access door of a Mooney and automaticaly provide about 10-15 AMP's of standby or emergency power at any airspeed above 100 kts. Amazingly, it can provide enough power to run most M20's and lower the gear if some effort is taken to reduce excessive electrical loads. We predict it will be most popular with nearly every Mooney owner who doesn't already have two alternators and/or generators on board. Keep watch on our Mods and Maintenance Sections for more details.
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